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	<title>Comments on: The Gervais Principle II: Posturetalk, Powertalk, Babytalk and Gametalk</title>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently made use of the ideas of posturetalk and cluelessness as a way to describe the use of snark and its forms outside of an organizational structure.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading through this series, all quite interesting.  It makes me glad I&#039;ve never worked for a big organization, or had to deal much with office dynamics.  I see a bit of myself in all three types, so reality is a bit more confusing than theory - but there was mention of an exile type that might fit me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through this series, all quite interesting.  It makes me glad I&#8217;ve never worked for a big organization, or had to deal much with office dynamics.  I see a bit of myself in all three types, so reality is a bit more confusing than theory &#8211; but there was mention of an exile type that might fit me.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally read this post today while taking a break from Robert Coram&#039;s well-researched biography of USAF Col. John Boyd (Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War).  So when I came across talk of &quot;tactics&quot; and &quot;information advantage&quot; here, it was perhaps inevitable that I be reminded of Boyd&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OODA Loop&lt;/a&gt;, his codification of the tactical decision-making process that takes place repeatedly in combat: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.  He argued that whichever party could iterate through this loop in the shortest time would inevitably command the advantage in combat.  In air-to-air combat, his main area of interest, this might play out by means of, for example, a small and quick-turning aircraft being able to shoot down a less maneuverable one.

The OODA Loop idea turns out to be applicable over a broad range of tactical situations and has been adopted throughout all the armed services.  I would expect it to come in very handy in a Powertalk conversation too, since I think every Powertalk conversation is essentially a subtle instance of combat among Sociopaths (I favor capitalizing the MacLeod-context-specific organizational Sociopaths to distinguish from ordinary sociopaths).  The least you can say is that Powertalk is always a negotiation, &lt;i&gt;analogous&lt;/i&gt; to combat -- though I would argue the distinction isn&#039;t needed.  The two are one; negotiation is combat; combat is negotiation; the goal in both cases is to determine/decide or allocate something of real value or consequence among self-interested individuals.  The use of flashy physicality as a method in this process distracts us and makes us want to apply a separate term (&quot;combat&quot;) but it&#039;s still the same game.

In the context of OODA loops, Michael&#039;s Powertalk attempts fail so spectacularly (and therefore succeed just as spectacularly as comedy) because he usually doesn&#039;t do the Observe or Orient steps to size up the situation or his opponent before Deciding on a course of Action.  (This fact constitutes his very cluelessness.)  So his &quot;clever&quot; tactics end up poorly placed and hilariously ineffective.  And then even more hilariously, he doesn&#039;t loop back and iterate the process; he breaks the OODA loop, and persists steadfastly in the same pattern -- wrong to begin with, and growing steadily wronger the longer he persists after we can all see it&#039;s not working.  Michael&#039;s OODA loops aren&#039;t just broken, they&#039;re twice-broken and stomped-on.  We&#039;re all in on this joke because, while &quot;OODA loop&quot; is a term few people recognize, it&#039;s a process most people nonetheless seem to grasp and be able to do on a daily basis almost instinctively/intuitively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally read this post today while taking a break from Robert Coram&#8217;s well-researched biography of USAF Col. John Boyd (Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War).  So when I came across talk of &#8220;tactics&#8221; and &#8220;information advantage&#8221; here, it was perhaps inevitable that I be reminded of Boyd&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop" rel="nofollow">OODA Loop</a>, his codification of the tactical decision-making process that takes place repeatedly in combat: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.  He argued that whichever party could iterate through this loop in the shortest time would inevitably command the advantage in combat.  In air-to-air combat, his main area of interest, this might play out by means of, for example, a small and quick-turning aircraft being able to shoot down a less maneuverable one.</p>
<p>The OODA Loop idea turns out to be applicable over a broad range of tactical situations and has been adopted throughout all the armed services.  I would expect it to come in very handy in a Powertalk conversation too, since I think every Powertalk conversation is essentially a subtle instance of combat among Sociopaths (I favor capitalizing the MacLeod-context-specific organizational Sociopaths to distinguish from ordinary sociopaths).  The least you can say is that Powertalk is always a negotiation, <i>analogous</i> to combat &#8212; though I would argue the distinction isn&#8217;t needed.  The two are one; negotiation is combat; combat is negotiation; the goal in both cases is to determine/decide or allocate something of real value or consequence among self-interested individuals.  The use of flashy physicality as a method in this process distracts us and makes us want to apply a separate term (&#8220;combat&#8221;) but it&#8217;s still the same game.</p>
<p>In the context of OODA loops, Michael&#8217;s Powertalk attempts fail so spectacularly (and therefore succeed just as spectacularly as comedy) because he usually doesn&#8217;t do the Observe or Orient steps to size up the situation or his opponent before Deciding on a course of Action.  (This fact constitutes his very cluelessness.)  So his &#8220;clever&#8221; tactics end up poorly placed and hilariously ineffective.  And then even more hilariously, he doesn&#8217;t loop back and iterate the process; he breaks the OODA loop, and persists steadfastly in the same pattern &#8212; wrong to begin with, and growing steadily wronger the longer he persists after we can all see it&#8217;s not working.  Michael&#8217;s OODA loops aren&#8217;t just broken, they&#8217;re twice-broken and stomped-on.  We&#8217;re all in on this joke because, while &#8220;OODA loop&#8221; is a term few people recognize, it&#8217;s a process most people nonetheless seem to grasp and be able to do on a daily basis almost instinctively/intuitively.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scott and the Economist&#8217;s Stone &#124; Catherynne M. Valente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Scott and the Economist&#8217;s Stone &#124; Catherynne M. Valente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gervais Principle: Part IPart II: Posturetalk, Powertalk, Gametalk and BabytalkPart III: The Curse of DevelopmentPart IV: Wonderful Human [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex I think, is considered a little too dangerous to routinely use as table stakes (by either sex) these days, as the anatomy of many scandals shows. I think most sociopaths treat other stakes vs. sex as dynamite (safe explosive) vs. nitroglycerine (too temperamental). But this is a whole huge topic, and The Office is not a particularly good source of insights into this topic (it&#039;s the one area where the show is romantic rather than dyspeptic... Pam is much cuter than her counterpart in the UK version, and the romantic/sex subplots are treated in basic feel-good/chick-flick ways rather than cynically... clearly the producers thought making that part of the show dark would make the show indigestible for American audiences.)</description>
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		<title>By: Marti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if sex can be considered another stake in the working environment, not strictyle related to business but certainly with power.  At least some people know how to trade one for the other. And maybe sexual harassment complaints are issued mostly against the clueless who aren&#039;t skilled with subtlety.
I&#039;m just guessing here, since I never worked in an organization. But I&#039;m very intrigued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if sex can be considered another stake in the working environment, not strictyle related to business but certainly with power.  At least some people know how to trade one for the other. And maybe sexual harassment complaints are issued mostly against the clueless who aren&#8217;t skilled with subtlety.<br />
I&#8217;m just guessing here, since I never worked in an organization. But I&#8217;m very intrigued.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This series of posts is absolutely brilliant and has put my entire working career in perspective. Four different jobs at four different companies now all make a lot more sense. I already had a much better grasp at what was happening at those jobs than the clueless people around me, but you&#039;ve described everything I&#039;ve learned and a lot more so lucidly and eloquently. I need to finish watching all The Office episodes in light of this new information.

The weird part is that I identify myself as both sociopath and loser in the MacLeod hierarchy. 

I would love to see a post describing a hypothetical organization devoid of pathological problems would work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This series of posts is absolutely brilliant and has put my entire working career in perspective. Four different jobs at four different companies now all make a lot more sense. I already had a much better grasp at what was happening at those jobs than the clueless people around me, but you&#8217;ve described everything I&#8217;ve learned and a lot more so lucidly and eloquently. I need to finish watching all The Office episodes in light of this new information.</p>
<p>The weird part is that I identify myself as both sociopath and loser in the MacLeod hierarchy. </p>
<p>I would love to see a post describing a hypothetical organization devoid of pathological problems would work.</p>
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		<title>By: Review: NBC&#8217;s The Office &#8211; Oh Those Boys!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review: NBC&#8217;s The Office &#8211; Oh Those Boys!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] using a framework he calls the Gervais Principle to explain why the show is so compelling. Part I, Part II, Part III. The insight here is that The Office demonstrates the pathologies and dysfunction of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best description I&#039;ve heard of a true sociopath is that they see others as video game characters. While there are a lot more true sociopaths in the world than people realize, I don&#039;t think there are enough to make up the powertalking sociopath class described here. I think it&#039;s largely made up of people who have empathatic attachments in their personal life, but are able to treat business as a completely virtual world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best description I&#8217;ve heard of a true sociopath is that they see others as video game characters. While there are a lot more true sociopaths in the world than people realize, I don&#8217;t think there are enough to make up the powertalking sociopath class described here. I think it&#8217;s largely made up of people who have empathatic attachments in their personal life, but are able to treat business as a completely virtual world.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; A cure to careerism Early Retirement Extreme: &#8212; financial independence in 5 years</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; A cure to careerism Early Retirement Extreme: &#8212; financial independence in 5 years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gervais Principle (thanks to Maus for bringing it to my attention) explains what [...]</description>
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		<title>By: clueless?</title>
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		<dc:creator>clueless?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally go for this sort of cheap shot, but you are such a  guy. Only a guy would go this far to portray all of human interaction as a struggle for dominance where the only individuals who aren&#039;t playing the game are either too stupid or too indifferent. I mean, by definition that includes the entire human race, but do you think that maybe there&#039;s more to the story than that? 

I know, I&#039;m name calling (and really oversimplifying), that&#039;s awful. I really do enjoy these posts, your writing is quite sophisticated and very engrossing. But still. Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally go for this sort of cheap shot, but you are such a  guy. Only a guy would go this far to portray all of human interaction as a struggle for dominance where the only individuals who aren&#8217;t playing the game are either too stupid or too indifferent. I mean, by definition that includes the entire human race, but do you think that maybe there&#8217;s more to the story than that? </p>
<p>I know, I&#8217;m name calling (and really oversimplifying), that&#8217;s awful. I really do enjoy these posts, your writing is quite sophisticated and very engrossing. But still. Guy.</p>
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		<title>By: BoboRoshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoboRoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating. Disturbing.

Since I am clearly in the Losers group within my organization (I&#039;m intelligent, but socially inept), I&#039;m struggling to see how I can force myself to remember some of these principles in order to improve my lot. This makes me consider the hierarchies within each group and whether it&#039;s possible to move from Losers to Clueless (and vice versa). I can&#039;t really see how a Clueless or a Loser could truly become a Sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. Disturbing.</p>
<p>Since I am clearly in the Losers group within my organization (I&#8217;m intelligent, but socially inept), I&#8217;m struggling to see how I can force myself to remember some of these principles in order to improve my lot. This makes me consider the hierarchies within each group and whether it&#8217;s possible to move from Losers to Clueless (and vice versa). I can&#8217;t really see how a Clueless or a Loser could truly become a Sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jim started the show as the checked out loser, where he viewed his employment as just a paycheck and invested all his activities in the pursuit of love (Pam).  Once that story arc had come together, the writers started taking his character into the sociopath direction starting with calling his job his &quot;career&quot; for the first time, and in recent episodes as co-manager saying he cared. 

The co-manager debacle shows that Jim is the good natured sociopath, as he didn&#039;t want Michael replaced, but rather bumped up with him.  Every sociopath move Jim makes is good natured, though there is one sence of flare up when he leaves Ryan the voice mail before Ryan is arrested - where Jim declares he will do what it takes to get rid of Ryan.  Of course, Jim had just started his journey to become a sociopath at that point, so it wasn&#039;t really an option and turned out to be not necessary.

At the end of season 5 when Charles says &quot;look who woke up&quot; to Jim, I think it means he is calling him a sociopath, followed by &quot;I&#039;ve been awake for a while&quot; - telling Jim directly that he can&#039;t best Charles in the sociopath department.  

In season 6 when Jim steps down as co-manager back to salesman, people hail this as a &quot;return to regular Jim&quot; (e.g. pre-sociopath perhaps), but I view this as highly sociopath.  The Sabre playbook has a clear quick-path up and that is salesman without caps.  Jim has never really tried at sales, and I think we all know why now - there was never a reason to.  The overperforming salesman at Dunder Miflin was a loser because they didn&#039;t get anymore money - not true at Sabre.  

I&#039;m hoping the Sabre arc will show us an interesting sociopath battle - good sociopath vs evil sociopath vis a vis Jim vs Ryan.  Now that senior management is gone, Ryan can make another play back up to the top.  Meanwhile Jim has already made the first move to the rapid-upward funnel in terms of cranking out sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jim started the show as the checked out loser, where he viewed his employment as just a paycheck and invested all his activities in the pursuit of love (Pam).  Once that story arc had come together, the writers started taking his character into the sociopath direction starting with calling his job his &#8220;career&#8221; for the first time, and in recent episodes as co-manager saying he cared. </p>
<p>The co-manager debacle shows that Jim is the good natured sociopath, as he didn&#8217;t want Michael replaced, but rather bumped up with him.  Every sociopath move Jim makes is good natured, though there is one sence of flare up when he leaves Ryan the voice mail before Ryan is arrested &#8211; where Jim declares he will do what it takes to get rid of Ryan.  Of course, Jim had just started his journey to become a sociopath at that point, so it wasn&#8217;t really an option and turned out to be not necessary.</p>
<p>At the end of season 5 when Charles says &#8220;look who woke up&#8221; to Jim, I think it means he is calling him a sociopath, followed by &#8220;I&#8217;ve been awake for a while&#8221; &#8211; telling Jim directly that he can&#8217;t best Charles in the sociopath department.  </p>
<p>In season 6 when Jim steps down as co-manager back to salesman, people hail this as a &#8220;return to regular Jim&#8221; (e.g. pre-sociopath perhaps), but I view this as highly sociopath.  The Sabre playbook has a clear quick-path up and that is salesman without caps.  Jim has never really tried at sales, and I think we all know why now &#8211; there was never a reason to.  The overperforming salesman at Dunder Miflin was a loser because they didn&#8217;t get anymore money &#8211; not true at Sabre.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping the Sabre arc will show us an interesting sociopath battle &#8211; good sociopath vs evil sociopath vis a vis Jim vs Ryan.  Now that senior management is gone, Ryan can make another play back up to the top.  Meanwhile Jim has already made the first move to the rapid-upward funnel in terms of cranking out sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that Michael isn&#039;t clueless.  He may understand he is clueless, but he certainly doesn&#039;t out sociopath the sociopaths.  

Examples:

When people cite the Michael Scott Paper Company buy out and how MS leverages a win over Wallace using the share holder meeting.  The camera cuts to Ryan smiling and nodding, which indicated to me Michael was playing Ryan&#039;s script at Wallace - i.e. Ryan gave Michael a little bit of sociopath powertalk to use if he needed it.

He does show some glimmer, when he bluffs the value of his company is nothing, because he is using the only table stakes he has - his salesman skills as a competitive threat that woudl reoccur if he were not part of Dunder Miflin.

Finally, even though Scranton is the best branch, Michael fails to leverage that position in any meaningful way - e.g. when Wallace asks him what he is doing right.  You may read that as Michael feigning stupidity to protect himself, but if he really wanted to run the company or do things better for the company, he would have leveraged that (i.e. wagered his table stakes) to his advantage.  Instead it results in Wallace viewing him as a clueless child and a little bit of babytalk &quot;ok you finish up [the pasta].&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that Michael isn&#8217;t clueless.  He may understand he is clueless, but he certainly doesn&#8217;t out sociopath the sociopaths.  </p>
<p>Examples:</p>
<p>When people cite the Michael Scott Paper Company buy out and how MS leverages a win over Wallace using the share holder meeting.  The camera cuts to Ryan smiling and nodding, which indicated to me Michael was playing Ryan&#8217;s script at Wallace &#8211; i.e. Ryan gave Michael a little bit of sociopath powertalk to use if he needed it.</p>
<p>He does show some glimmer, when he bluffs the value of his company is nothing, because he is using the only table stakes he has &#8211; his salesman skills as a competitive threat that woudl reoccur if he were not part of Dunder Miflin.</p>
<p>Finally, even though Scranton is the best branch, Michael fails to leverage that position in any meaningful way &#8211; e.g. when Wallace asks him what he is doing right.  You may read that as Michael feigning stupidity to protect himself, but if he really wanted to run the company or do things better for the company, he would have leveraged that (i.e. wagered his table stakes) to his advantage.  Instead it results in Wallace viewing him as a clueless child and a little bit of babytalk &#8220;ok you finish up [the pasta].&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Singletoned &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sociopaths, Clueless and Losers</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/11/11/the-gervais-principle-ii-posturetalk-powertalk-babytalk-and-gametalk/#comment-4006</link>
		<dc:creator>Singletoned &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sociopaths, Clueless and Losers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Follow up article that Venkatesh wrote [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sociopaths</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/11/11/the-gervais-principle-ii-posturetalk-powertalk-babytalk-and-gametalk/#comment-3980</link>
		<dc:creator>Sociopaths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You guys aren&#039;t even close.

Love,
--Sociopaths
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You guys aren&#8217;t even close.</p>
<p>Love,<br />
&#8211;Sociopaths<br />
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		<title>By: tV</title>
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		<dc:creator>tV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connected this to some theorisations in Autonomist theory here_

http://fugitive.quadrantcrossing.org/?p=305</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connected this to some theorisations in Autonomist theory here_</p>
<p><a href="http://fugitive.quadrantcrossing.org/?p=305" rel="nofollow">http://fugitive.quadrantcrossing.org/?p=305</a></p>
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		<title>By: tV</title>
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		<dc:creator>tV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first rule of fight club is ...</description>
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		<title>By: lds</title>
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		<dc:creator>lds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devastating. A great read.

Your analysis fits nicely a scene from the UK Office that I have longed to understand: Clear sociopath Neil and loser Tim share a moment of straight talk when Neil offers Tim the interim branch manager job and Tim straightforwardly turns him down, but then delivers a stream of powertalk nominating clueless Gareth for the job, displaying his facility with the language while also rubbing Neil&#039;s face in the fact that Tim chooses not to be a sociopath in the Wernam Hogg organizational structure, but rather a minimum-effort loser.

Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devastating. A great read.</p>
<p>Your analysis fits nicely a scene from the UK Office that I have longed to understand: Clear sociopath Neil and loser Tim share a moment of straight talk when Neil offers Tim the interim branch manager job and Tim straightforwardly turns him down, but then delivers a stream of powertalk nominating clueless Gareth for the job, displaying his facility with the language while also rubbing Neil&#8217;s face in the fact that Tim chooses not to be a sociopath in the Wernam Hogg organizational structure, but rather a minimum-effort loser.</p>
<p>Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fictional data here is of course the Michael-Dwight interactions. Prima facie, your take on inter-clueless interactions seems reasonable, but I haven&#039;t yet sat down and analyzed this significantly.

Outside-directed posturetalk... that&#039;s Part III.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fictional data here is of course the Michael-Dwight interactions. Prima facie, your take on inter-clueless interactions seems reasonable, but I haven&#8217;t yet sat down and analyzed this significantly.</p>
<p>Outside-directed posturetalk&#8230; that&#8217;s Part III.</p>
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