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	<title>Comments on: The Crucible Effect and the Scarcity of Collective Attention</title>
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		<title>By: Red Crucible</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-13895</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Crucible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.online-fps.com/multiplayer/red-crucible/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Crucible&lt;/a&gt; is the best co-op game I ever played!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.online-fps.com/multiplayer/red-crucible/" rel="nofollow">Red Crucible</a> is the best co-op game I ever played!</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-13775</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I start my blogging collaborations in teams of five - more than that and getting them all on the same page and having them be available if you want to do a live meeting becomes problematic. 

Once there are successful teams of five familiar with collaborating that have developed basic skill sets it is far easier to identify twelve with the maturity of dispositions to work collectively. 

I don&#039;t start from scratch with the teams of five, either. I hand select them based on their having accomplished a certain level of clarity in what they have achieved thus far and ideally from those who have chosen to be dofollow CommentLuv bloggers because that is a strong indication of a pay-it-forward rather than selfish mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I start my blogging collaborations in teams of five &#8211; more than that and getting them all on the same page and having them be available if you want to do a live meeting becomes problematic. </p>
<p>Once there are successful teams of five familiar with collaborating that have developed basic skill sets it is far easier to identify twelve with the maturity of dispositions to work collectively. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t start from scratch with the teams of five, either. I hand select them based on their having accomplished a certain level of clarity in what they have achieved thus far and ideally from those who have chosen to be dofollow CommentLuv bloggers because that is a strong indication of a pay-it-forward rather than selfish mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-13774</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: Where do you go when there are no more levels (or if you’ve reached the highest level you can, short of the top)? 

A: You create your own levels. 

POINT: Raving fans model is unbelievable. 

TRUE, because YOUR target audience (and mine) is NOT the &quot;unthinking bleating-sheep&quot; - it is the minority population of true thinkers. 

The Tribe proponents want to be the worshipped so they can lead their marks to their own benefit. They often refer to these marks as sheep - which I find particularly annoying as that is a slam against those of us who choose to be the sheep of Jesus and follow no one else.   

Here is what IMHO all of these are missing. The point of the 12 is NOT &quot;innovation by committee&quot; - it is to put together a collaboration of 12 innovators with different talents who share their innovations and collectively create a better world using them. 

These 12 can then start additional groups of twelve and transfer the wisdom of the original group to additional &quot;leaders&quot; - for want of a better term - so that the better world they envision can be created bottom up and overcome all oppressors. 

I disagree that these participants must be &quot;fiercely contentious and competitive collaborators who at least partly hate the fact that they need the others, but grudgingly admire skills besides their own&quot;. WHY should they be? That is an ego problem unnecessary to perpetuate. 

Competition creates losers and is unnecessary. There is always room &quot;at the top&quot; for more winners because instead of fighting over a very limited pie they can simply create a larger pie! 

You only need 12 because most people prefer to be followers, content to lurk, and we can give them a better path to follow than the wolves in sheep&#039;s clothing targeting them as marks. 

You don&#039;t &quot;exit the dream team level&quot; so you can have it all selfishly - you stay a part of the ever-growing collaboration that is building a better world. 

I define that &quot;better world&quot; as a world in which competition is unnecessary and every person everywhere has a decent standard of living and interesting things to do - where people do what they love and focus on what is important in life - where they do NOT worship money or power (or their foolish selves) as their god. 

Collaborations of bloggers who create group geo-targeted niche blogs read by the masses of followers are the solution to impending economic collapse and environmental nightmares. Of course it may be too late - given the damage humans have done to this planet - but at least those who participate will recognize the purpose of life and be prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: Where do you go when there are no more levels (or if you’ve reached the highest level you can, short of the top)? </p>
<p>A: You create your own levels. </p>
<p>POINT: Raving fans model is unbelievable. </p>
<p>TRUE, because YOUR target audience (and mine) is NOT the &#8220;unthinking bleating-sheep&#8221; &#8211; it is the minority population of true thinkers. </p>
<p>The Tribe proponents want to be the worshipped so they can lead their marks to their own benefit. They often refer to these marks as sheep &#8211; which I find particularly annoying as that is a slam against those of us who choose to be the sheep of Jesus and follow no one else.   </p>
<p>Here is what IMHO all of these are missing. The point of the 12 is NOT &#8220;innovation by committee&#8221; &#8211; it is to put together a collaboration of 12 innovators with different talents who share their innovations and collectively create a better world using them. </p>
<p>These 12 can then start additional groups of twelve and transfer the wisdom of the original group to additional &#8220;leaders&#8221; &#8211; for want of a better term &#8211; so that the better world they envision can be created bottom up and overcome all oppressors. </p>
<p>I disagree that these participants must be &#8220;fiercely contentious and competitive collaborators who at least partly hate the fact that they need the others, but grudgingly admire skills besides their own&#8221;. WHY should they be? That is an ego problem unnecessary to perpetuate. </p>
<p>Competition creates losers and is unnecessary. There is always room &#8220;at the top&#8221; for more winners because instead of fighting over a very limited pie they can simply create a larger pie! </p>
<p>You only need 12 because most people prefer to be followers, content to lurk, and we can give them a better path to follow than the wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing targeting them as marks. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t &#8220;exit the dream team level&#8221; so you can have it all selfishly &#8211; you stay a part of the ever-growing collaboration that is building a better world. </p>
<p>I define that &#8220;better world&#8221; as a world in which competition is unnecessary and every person everywhere has a decent standard of living and interesting things to do &#8211; where people do what they love and focus on what is important in life &#8211; where they do NOT worship money or power (or their foolish selves) as their god. </p>
<p>Collaborations of bloggers who create group geo-targeted niche blogs read by the masses of followers are the solution to impending economic collapse and environmental nightmares. Of course it may be too late &#8211; given the damage humans have done to this planet &#8211; but at least those who participate will recognize the purpose of life and be prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: The End of the Parade</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-10775</link>
		<dc:creator>The End of the Parade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (in fact I did make the mistake, but fortunately not in the book. I consider an old post, The Crucible Effect, despite its popularity, to be fatally flawed because it did not adequately consider cohort [...]</description>
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		<title>By: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A critique of the 1,000 true fans business model for creativity</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A critique of the 1,000 true fans business model for creativity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On the Spiral blog discusses an important article and argument by Venkatesh [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alternative Currency, YCombinator and the Creative Knowledge Worker &#124; OnTheSpiral</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-10117</link>
		<dc:creator>Alternative Currency, YCombinator and the Creative Knowledge Worker &#124; OnTheSpiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is where we return to Venkat&#8217;s piece The Crucible Effect and the Scarcity of Collective Attention, in which Venkat attacks the notion that the average &#8220;long-tail&#8221; content creator should [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What industries and professions are still ruled by &#34;good ol&#039; boy&#34; networks? - Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-9829</link>
		<dc:creator>What industries and professions are still ruled by &#34;good ol&#039; boy&#34; networks? - Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fast.&quot;I called this the &quot;Crucible Effect&quot; (I like making up names for such things): http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/0...At a broader level, Pull by John Seely Brown and John Hagel shows how this sort of dynamic is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fast.&quot;I called this the &quot;Crucible Effect&quot; (I like making up names for such things): <a href="http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/0...At" rel="nofollow">http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/0&#8230;At</a> a broader level, Pull by John Seely Brown and John Hagel shows how this sort of dynamic is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How do you find good startup partners / co-founders? - Quora</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-8458</link>
		<dc:creator>How do you find good startup partners / co-founders? - Quora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] partners is partly the consequence of a social dynamic that I call the &quot;crucible effect.&quot;http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/0...This is the most common way. There is a book called the &quot;Power of 2&quot; by Rodd Wagner that I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daemeon Reiydelle</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-3518</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemeon Reiydelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5-7 is a good team size to manage/control if I want to dampen creative dissonance. In a team of 10-15 I get moving and overlapping locii of creative cooperation that generates dissonance with the other locii. Perhaps less tiring to channel the overlapping dissonance than to manage &amp; control. 

However, except when I work on my own teams (my hobby is rebuilding downtrodden houses), the project management (I am an SAP integration consultant) typically breaks these (tiger?) teams into smaller teams with the self-fulfillment that the smaller teams fail to deliver on the schedules being met by the tiger teams. Thanks for &quot;The Gervais Principle II: Posturetalk, Powertalk, Babytalk and Gametalk&quot; it provides an interesting explanation to this loser/sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5-7 is a good team size to manage/control if I want to dampen creative dissonance. In a team of 10-15 I get moving and overlapping locii of creative cooperation that generates dissonance with the other locii. Perhaps less tiring to channel the overlapping dissonance than to manage &amp; control. </p>
<p>However, except when I work on my own teams (my hobby is rebuilding downtrodden houses), the project management (I am an SAP integration consultant) typically breaks these (tiger?) teams into smaller teams with the self-fulfillment that the smaller teams fail to deliver on the schedules being met by the tiger teams. Thanks for &#8220;The Gervais Principle II: Posturetalk, Powertalk, Babytalk and Gametalk&#8221; it provides an interesting explanation to this loser/sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-3261</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - Thanks for highlighting a key point. I didn&#039;t make the prescription/description distinction cleanly in my mind. 

I have been thinking about the &#039;how&#039; since I wrote this piece (yet another imperfect word...) and have reached some tentative conclusions but am still figuring out how to present them.

An earlier unsatisfactory stab at the &#039;how&#039; was in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/03/26/the-tragedy-of-wiios-law/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Tragedy of Wiio’s Law&lt;/a&gt;, but that was something of a sideways glance at this question.

And am honored to be your &#039;new favorite blog&#039; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; Thanks for highlighting a key point. I didn&#8217;t make the prescription/description distinction cleanly in my mind. </p>
<p>I have been thinking about the &#8216;how&#8217; since I wrote this piece (yet another imperfect word&#8230;) and have reached some tentative conclusions but am still figuring out how to present them.</p>
<p>An earlier unsatisfactory stab at the &#8216;how&#8217; was in <a href="http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/03/26/the-tragedy-of-wiios-law/" rel="nofollow">The Tragedy of Wiio’s Law</a>, but that was something of a sideways glance at this question.</p>
<p>And am honored to be your &#8216;new favorite blog&#8217; <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Granade</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/21/the-crucible-effect-and-the-scarcity-of-collective-attention/#comment-3260</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Granade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point concerning the Super 30 concept is that the &quot;magic number&quot; 12 is a destination, not a prescription.  If you assemble a group by choosing the 12 &quot;top students&quot; from a given population, there is no guarantee (in fact I think it would be quite unlikely) that they would be able to form a stable group of 12 peers.  Venkat&#039;s essay* addresses the reasons why a group of 12 peers working together is desirable, not how to assemble such a group.  Also as he notes in his response, 30 could break down into several groups, for example 2 groups with a median size of 15 or three groups with a median size of 10.  The proper way to cultivate such a group in a given environment is an area very rich for thought :)

@Venkat:  I started following with the surge from Slashdot surrounding the &quot;Gervais Principle&quot; post, and you&#039;re my new favorite blog.


*what is the term for a single entry in a blog anyway?  &quot;post&quot; seems to get used but seems inadequate for the more substantial works, &quot;article&quot; has an air of &quot;print publication&quot;, &quot;essay&quot; as I used also seems somewhat off as it suggests academia, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point concerning the Super 30 concept is that the &#8220;magic number&#8221; 12 is a destination, not a prescription.  If you assemble a group by choosing the 12 &#8220;top students&#8221; from a given population, there is no guarantee (in fact I think it would be quite unlikely) that they would be able to form a stable group of 12 peers.  Venkat&#8217;s essay* addresses the reasons why a group of 12 peers working together is desirable, not how to assemble such a group.  Also as he notes in his response, 30 could break down into several groups, for example 2 groups with a median size of 15 or three groups with a median size of 10.  The proper way to cultivate such a group in a given environment is an area very rich for thought <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Venkat:  I started following with the surge from Slashdot surrounding the &#8220;Gervais Principle&#8221; post, and you&#8217;re my new favorite blog.</p>
<p>*what is the term for a single entry in a blog anyway?  &#8220;post&#8221; seems to get used but seems inadequate for the more substantial works, &#8220;article&#8221; has an air of &#8220;print publication&#8221;, &#8220;essay&#8221; as I used also seems somewhat off as it suggests academia, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: Like I said, I am not religious about the number, but 30 does seem too high. I think the effective size is between 9 and 16.

Your example: I suspect the 30 may have broken down informally into smaller cliques within the Super-30. I took the same exam, and curiously, 11 out of my class of around 40 made it :)

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: Like I said, I am not religious about the number, but 30 does seem too high. I think the effective size is between 9 and 16.</p>
<p>Your example: I suspect the 30 may have broken down informally into smaller cliques within the Super-30. I took the same exam, and curiously, 11 out of my class of around 40 made it <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pajo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Pajo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or maybem, 30? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_30</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or maybem, 30? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_30" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_30</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just discovered your blog. Subscribed! Where have you been all my life? ;-)

Pre-beta or not, this article is very fruitful stuff. Hope you&#039;ll continue to think out loud on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just discovered your blog. Subscribed! Where have you been all my life? <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Pre-beta or not, this article is very fruitful stuff. Hope you&#8217;ll continue to think out loud on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well this is one of my more-beta-than-usual pieces, and the argument is not as tight or even clear to me as I&#039;d like. when the clear picture pops into my head, the sort that can be actually drawn, I&#039;ll understand myself a bit better :)

You got your precis basically right, except I think that all 12 contribute individual creative sparks. The heyday of PARC was a great example of crucible (Alan Kay: programming languages and UI metaphors, Simonyi: application s/w, Butler Lampson: micro-scale hardware,...). Another was the polish school of mathematics (Ulam, Banach...). Toronto at one point had an unusually fertile literary scene. 

So scenes with just 1 idea guy rarely play out well for long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well this is one of my more-beta-than-usual pieces, and the argument is not as tight or even clear to me as I&#8217;d like. when the clear picture pops into my head, the sort that can be actually drawn, I&#8217;ll understand myself a bit better <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You got your precis basically right, except I think that all 12 contribute individual creative sparks. The heyday of PARC was a great example of crucible (Alan Kay: programming languages and UI metaphors, Simonyi: application s/w, Butler Lampson: micro-scale hardware,&#8230;). Another was the polish school of mathematics (Ulam, Banach&#8230;). Toronto at one point had an unusually fertile literary scene. </p>
<p>So scenes with just 1 idea guy rarely play out well for long.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks this (back-to-longish?) post of yours deserved one of your cutely effective Paintbrush diagrams for lesser mortals to connect the (blurred and moving) dots! On second thoughts, even a three-dimensional picture would probably prove inadequate to encapsulate your seven-samurai summary :-)

So what are you saying? That economics is driven by free-market allocation of the scarcest resource of attention, grabbed by creative groups of optimal size of around 12 that collaborate to develop a brilliant spark coming from a single individual mind, each of whom appeals to about 150 so that the group attracts 1,000? Okay...</description>
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<p>So what are you saying? That economics is driven by free-market allocation of the scarcest resource of attention, grabbed by creative groups of optimal size of around 12 that collaborate to develop a brilliant spark coming from a single individual mind, each of whom appeals to about 150 so that the group attracts 1,000? Okay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Links 23/07/2009: Sony Ericsson Dumps Windows for Linux, US Free Software Coalition Formed &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 23/07/2009: Sony Ericsson Dumps Windows for Linux, US Free Software Coalition Formed &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Crucible Effect and the Scarcity of Collective Attention [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin:

I guess outfits like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.partnerup.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;partnerup.com&lt;/a&gt; are trying to do something like that.  But I think the need for collective attention allocation mechanisms precedes goal-formation. Services inspired by job and dating markets are too goal-oriented I think. Especially true for post-disciplinary crucibles; table-tennis leagues already function well. It is the creation of things like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Circle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vienna Circle&lt;/a&gt; say, that is the scarcity challenge.</description>
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<p>I guess outfits like <a href="http://www.partnerup.com" rel="nofollow">partnerup.com</a> are trying to do something like that.  But I think the need for collective attention allocation mechanisms precedes goal-formation. Services inspired by job and dating markets are too goal-oriented I think. Especially true for post-disciplinary crucibles; table-tennis leagues already function well. It is the creation of things like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Circle" rel="nofollow">Vienna Circle</a> say, that is the scarcity challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Pickard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Optimal allocation is hard because the numbers blow up in your face.&lt;/em&gt;

Maybe we need to steal the algorithms used by dating sites?</description>
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<p>Maybe we need to steal the algorithms used by dating sites?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Pinochet (spinochet) 's status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-09 15:39:15 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Pinochet (spinochet) 's status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-09 15:39:15 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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