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		<title>By: Enterprise 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Books for an Enterprise 2.0 Canon</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>Enterprise 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Books for an Enterprise 2.0 Canon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2.0: The Wisdom of Crowds by James Surowiecki is the Bible of crowdsourcing, but usually used to analyze consumer market [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1687</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick: that&#039;s some seriously intellectual writing you&#039;ve got there :) I&#039;ll file away and try to understand your take on &#039;where is here&#039; shortly.

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick: that&#8217;s some seriously intellectual writing you&#8217;ve got there <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll file away and try to understand your take on &#8216;where is here&#8217; shortly.</p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: Derick Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>Derick Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A propos the anecdote in Jeff Howe&#039;s book (which I purchased in S.F. a couple of weeks ago), I believe from an ethnogaphic standpoint that the experience referenced by the Cincinnati Inquirer in connection with &quot;Who is Us&quot; (Is we published?) is off the mark. The more pertinent question is &quot;Where is here&quot;? To frame the question thus is to experience a more well rounded apprehension of crowds &quot;writ large&quot;. 

I tried to deal with this more fully (and with a single example) in an essay a couple of months ago which can be found here.
http://knol.google.com/k/derick-harris/where-in-the-world-is-here/36gjd7zkgxvbe/16#.
Derick Harris
Hawaii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A propos the anecdote in Jeff Howe&#8217;s book (which I purchased in S.F. a couple of weeks ago), I believe from an ethnogaphic standpoint that the experience referenced by the Cincinnati Inquirer in connection with &#8220;Who is Us&#8221; (Is we published?) is off the mark. The more pertinent question is &#8220;Where is here&#8221;? To frame the question thus is to experience a more well rounded apprehension of crowds &#8220;writ large&#8221;. </p>
<p>I tried to deal with this more fully (and with a single example) in an essay a couple of months ago which can be found here.<br />
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/derick-harris/where-in-the-world-is-here/36gjd7zkgxvbe/16#" rel="nofollow">http://knol.google.com/k/derick-harris/where-in-the-world-is-here/36gjd7zkgxvbe/16#</a>.<br />
Derick Harris<br />
Hawaii</p>
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		<title>By: CrowdSourcing Blog &#187; Guest Post: Exit Telecommuter—Enter Cloudworker</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1664</link>
		<dc:creator>CrowdSourcing Blog &#187; Guest Post: Exit Telecommuter—Enter Cloudworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our guest blogger today, Venkatesh Rao, has the distinction of writing one of the most penetrating reviews of my book in print or online. Venkat does crowdsourcing research at Xerox, and has also been one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] our guest blogger today, Venkatesh Rao, has the distinction of writing one of the most penetrating reviews of my book in print or online. Venkat does crowdsourcing research at Xerox, and has also been one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Enterprise 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future-of-Work X-Prizes at Cloudworker.org</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>Enterprise 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future-of-Work X-Prizes at Cloudworker.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the career guide for cloudworkers), Wired contributing editor Jeff Howe (signed audio versions of  Crowdsourcing, the other side of the job market for cloudworkers) and yours truly (some of the cool gear I won for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the career guide for cloudworkers), Wired contributing editor Jeff Howe (signed audio versions of  Crowdsourcing, the other side of the job market for cloudworkers) and yours truly (some of the cool gear I won for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anittah Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Anittah Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also be careful to note that I could care less whether someone has a PhD but simply found the notion of grad students unionizing (which is what Surowiecki was pushing for) to be totally asinine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also be careful to note that I could care less whether someone has a PhD but simply found the notion of grad students unionizing (which is what Surowiecki was pushing for) to be totally asinine.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... lemme be careful here Anittah. I do find Surowiecki&#039;s book useful and well-written overall (&quot;roughly, directionally correct&quot; is the phrase I used), and if that didn&#039;t come through in the little reviewette, that&#039;s my fault. Maybe I oughta start putting the positives first, though I HAVE noticed that reviews that are either negative or start off negative get more traffic.

That said, I have no comment to make on the quality of his intellectual output overall, or on inferences that can be drawn from a person dropping out of a PhD program (though you may or may not be right in what you are implying). Living the life of a credentialed scholar is far from being the only, or even the best (or even among the top 5) ways to contribute intellectually to culture and knowledge, and I tend to err on the side of favoring the work of blaze-your-own-path maverick intellectuals outside the academy over the routine, dull dreck at academic conferences which comes with the full comma-phd attached. Especially when it comes to fostering works of broad synthesis, like JS attempts, the academy, frankly, sucks (a few daring souls like E. O. Wilson aside).

I guess I am saying I can imagine, and empathize with, the frustrations that would lead someone to drop a Yale PhD and pursue attempts to contribute by (say) writing for the New Yorker instead :). Though my own doctoral experience was very positive, and I finished and had fun in the process, I can clearly see it&#039;s limitations too (and know plenty of people who hated it, and finished when they should have dropped out and found something better to do with their lives). That&#039;s one of the reasons I write this blog, though I do occasionally continue with more traditional &quot;scholarly&quot; stuff.

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; lemme be careful here Anittah. I do find Surowiecki&#8217;s book useful and well-written overall (&#8220;roughly, directionally correct&#8221; is the phrase I used), and if that didn&#8217;t come through in the little reviewette, that&#8217;s my fault. Maybe I oughta start putting the positives first, though I HAVE noticed that reviews that are either negative or start off negative get more traffic.</p>
<p>That said, I have no comment to make on the quality of his intellectual output overall, or on inferences that can be drawn from a person dropping out of a PhD program (though you may or may not be right in what you are implying). Living the life of a credentialed scholar is far from being the only, or even the best (or even among the top 5) ways to contribute intellectually to culture and knowledge, and I tend to err on the side of favoring the work of blaze-your-own-path maverick intellectuals outside the academy over the routine, dull dreck at academic conferences which comes with the full comma-phd attached. Especially when it comes to fostering works of broad synthesis, like JS attempts, the academy, frankly, sucks (a few daring souls like E. O. Wilson aside).</p>
<p>I guess I am saying I can imagine, and empathize with, the frustrations that would lead someone to drop a Yale PhD and pursue attempts to contribute by (say) writing for the New Yorker instead <img src='http://www.ribbonfarm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Though my own doctoral experience was very positive, and I finished and had fun in the process, I can clearly see it&#8217;s limitations too (and know plenty of people who hated it, and finished when they should have dropped out and found something better to do with their lives). That&#8217;s one of the reasons I write this blog, though I do occasionally continue with more traditional &#8220;scholarly&#8221; stuff.</p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: Anittah Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2008/09/25/crowdsourcing-and-the-wisdom-of-the-crowds/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Anittah Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have to admit, the New Yorker style of self-assured, faux-authoritative rhetoric annoys me in general, and particularly in this case. Surowiecki is much too confident about his ability to represent and interpret academic work. I lost my faith in his inferences when I read the bit, somewhere in the middle of the book, about traffic behavior and automated highway systems, a subject I studied at a fairly detailed and technical level during my PhD, which was on the related problem of formation flight. His treatment of this particular theme is somewhere between simple-minded and plain wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OMG you hit the nail on the head.  I&#039;ve always found his je ne sais quoi grating, even when he was lobbying for unionization rights when a doctoral candidate at Yale (I was also there at the time; he did not finish), but you found the words for which I could only muster vague moodiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have to admit, the New Yorker style of self-assured, faux-authoritative rhetoric annoys me in general, and particularly in this case. Surowiecki is much too confident about his ability to represent and interpret academic work. I lost my faith in his inferences when I read the bit, somewhere in the middle of the book, about traffic behavior and automated highway systems, a subject I studied at a fairly detailed and technical level during my PhD, which was on the related problem of formation flight. His treatment of this particular theme is somewhere between simple-minded and plain wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>OMG you hit the nail on the head.  I&#8217;ve always found his je ne sais quoi grating, even when he was lobbying for unionization rights when a doctoral candidate at Yale (I was also there at the time; he did not finish), but you found the words for which I could only muster vague moodiness.</p>
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